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Old 05-17-2019, 05:32 PM
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Each time I remove the table borders from a two-column two-row table, the first picture's caption moves up, but the second caption stays put. If I delete each caption, remove the borders, and reinsert the caption under the picture in the first column, that caption moves up or goes down to another page. The table stays in its own section, too. What can I do to delete the borders and leave the captions in place?
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Without actually seeing the problem document, it can be difficult for anyone to diagnose the issue. Can you attach a document to a post with some representative data (delete anything sensitive)? You do this via the paperclip symbol on the 'Go Advanced' tab at the bottom of this screen.
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Without actually seeing the problem document, it can be difficult for anyone to diagnose the issue. Can you attach a document to a post with some representative data (delete anything sensitive)? You do this via the paperclip symbol on the 'Go Advanced' tab at the bottom of this screen.
Each time I try to take a screen shot, the picture comes out blank. But I'll be happy to post a screen shot if it'll show you what you need to see. Thanks.
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Old 05-18-2019, 01:51 PM
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If I copy the table and paste it specially into a new blank document where I remove the border, the captions stay put when the border disappears.
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Each time I try to take a screen shot, the picture comes out blank.
I asked you to attach a document, not a screenshot.
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If I copy the table and paste it specially into a new blank document where I remove the border, the captions stay put when the border disappears.
In that case, attach a sufficient portion of the problem document to demonstrate the issue.
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Macro, thank you. You did ask for a document, not for a screenshot. So I'm attaching a document that I created by deleting pages before and after the ones you'll see.
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Old 05-19-2019, 12:24 AM
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The fundamental problem with your document is that the captions aren't part of the table; they're is separate textboxes floating over it. If you cut the captions from the textboxes and add them to the actual table, either:
(a) in the same cells as the pictures; or
(b) in a new table row,
the problem is easily solved by either:
1. formatting the table so that rows don't break across pages for (a); or
2. using the 'keep with next' paragraph format in the image rows for (b).
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Thank you, Macropad. I'll do what you suggest to keep captions in their rows in each picture table in the document.
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Macropad, thank you again.

The computer keeps confusing me when I obey your instructions. So to see what would happen, I copied the table to a new blank document where the captions stayed put when I removed the borders. But if I remove them from the table in the document I copied from, the first caption still floats upward. If I replace the table with a copy of the one from the new document, the caption rises again. When I inserted a new table and copied the picture into it, the right-hand column's caption vanished. What mistake am I making?
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The mistake you're making is that you aren't deleting the captions from their text boxes and putting the captions into the table. When you do that, you can delete the textboxes.
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The mistake you're making is that you aren't deleting the captions from their text boxes and putting the captions into the table. When you do that, you can delete the textboxes.
After I deleted the caption and the text box, I added a row to the bottom of the table. That change inserted a new mostly blank page with a heading and the caption both printed on it. So the problems I've been describing in this thread tempt me to treat the table as a picture. But if I do that, I'll need to manually update the table of figures because with the captions built into a picture, the computer will omit them from that table. It won't know that they're captions.
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See the attached. I note that the caption on the right was already in the table cell; it's only the one on the left that wasn't.
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See the attached. I note that the caption on the right was already in the table cell; it's only the one on the left that wasn't.
Thank you, macro, for your patient help. I've pasted the revised table into the book it came from.
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