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Old 04-25-2023, 10:39 AM
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First. Thank you ALL for responding.
Stefan Blom: FWIW the link shows the site is insecure. Most likely the certificate has not been updated.


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NOW MY PROBLEM &*^%$
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1. The Court wants a 2 inch top margin on the first page and no page number.
2. For the second and all subsequent pages, the Court wants a 1.5 inch top margin
on the second page and the second page AND all subsequent pages to be sequentially numbered.
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I create a section break between the first and second pages.
I then went to the second page in Page LayOut and selected > Different First Page.

I then went to the First Page > Page Setup > set a 2 inch margin for the first page.
I then went to the Second page > Page SetUp > set a 1.5 inch top margin.
I then created textboxes to hold pleading numbers on both Page 1 and Page 2.
Everything aligns (body text and pleading numbers).
The Page 2 textbox and pleading numbers carry forward correctly to all subsequent pages.

After typing the document, I went to footer to put in the page numbers.
This is where the problem appears to be.
Page 1 Footer shows: Footer Section 1
Page 2 Footer shows: First Page Footer Section 2

When I enter the Page number and Number of pages on the second page,
it does NOT carry forward to the subsequent pages. If I also add
Page number and Number of pages on the third page, it does NOT appear
to count the pages, showing ALL as page 3.

WHERE AM I GOING WRONG?

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I create a section break between the first and second pages.
I then went to the second page in Page LayOut and selected > Different First Page.

I then went to the First Page > Page Setup > set a 2 inch margin for the first page.
I then went to the Second page > Page SetUp > set a 1.5 inch top margin.
I then created textboxes to hold pleading numbers on both Page 1 and Page 2.
Everything aligns (body text and pleading numbers).
The Page 2 textbox and pleading numbers carry forward correctly to all subsequent pages.

After typing the document, I went to footer to put in the page numbers.
This is where the problem appears to be.
Page 1 Footer shows: Footer Section 1
Page 2 Footer shows: First Page Footer Section 2

When I enter the Page number and Number of pages on the second page,
it does NOT carry forward to the subsequent pages. If I also add
Page number and Number of pages on the third page, it does NOT appear
to count the pages, showing ALL as page 3.

WHERE AM I GOING WRONG?

When there are multiple footers, and you want the page number field in all of them, you must add the field to each footer.

Double-click the header to activate the header/footer area, click where you want the page number field and insert it with Alt+Shift+P. Go to other footers, as required and repeat the insertion of the page number field.

Note that when you make use of "Different first page" to deal with the margins, you probably don't need a section break at the end of the first page, which would simplify the document by reducing the number of sections.
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Old 04-25-2023, 02:11 PM
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1. The Court wants a 2 inch top margin on the first page and no page number.
2. For the second and all subsequent pages, the Court wants a 1.5 inch top margin
on the second page and the second page AND all subsequent pages to be sequentially numbered.
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I create a section break between the first and second pages.
I then went to the second page in Page LayOut and selected > Different First Page.
NO SECTION BREAK

Set the top margin for 1.5 inches.

Edit the header and set it for Different First Page.

On the first page header, put something in the header which is invisible and take an extra half-inch. Something like a blank borderless text box or an empty paragraph or two. That substitutes for the 2 inch top margin for page 1 without any section break.

Do not put any page number in the first-page footer.
Do insert a page number in the main footer.

Put your line numbering in both the first-page header and the continuation page header.

I know it is annoying but I gave you those links because they help you understand what is happening.

I am a lawyer. I have been producing pleadings in Word for more than thirty years now.

I understand that you are not producing letterhead, but the concepts are the same. You are faking a different margin on the first page by putting something in the header. That unneeded section break is the cause of much of your frustration.
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Old 04-25-2023, 02:23 PM
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When I enter the Page number and Number of pages on the second page,
it does NOT carry forward to the subsequent pages. If I also add
Page number and Number of pages on the third page, it does NOT appear
to count the pages, showing ALL as page 3.
Page Numbers, in Word, are fields. They are never something that you type. You insert the field.
Every Section in Word has three footers and three headers, whether or not you see them. Header/Footer, First Page H/F, Even Page H/F. These are discrete parts of the section and have nothing to do with link to previous. Link to Previous can connect a header or footer of one type to the one of the same type in the previous section.

So if you are using more than one of these types, you have to repeat the same content in each header or footer you are using in a section. The First-Page header is a different header from the "Header" (or the "Odd-Page Header") or the "Even-Page Header."
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