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Old 03-09-2022, 05:49 AM
Charles Kenyon Charles Kenyon is offline WORD 97, Styles and MisFormatting of Text Windows 10 WORD 97, Styles and MisFormatting of Text Office 2019
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Look up Word Object Model. Not all of that applies to Word 97, but that is the basic structure.



Word works like a Russian doll with containers boxed inside other containers.
The overall container is the application.
The document resides inside that when open as a part of the documents collection.
Sections reside inside the document. There is always at least one.
The body of a document, Headers and Footers, Footnotes are parts inside a section.
Paragraphs are inside each of those.
Words are inside paragraphs as are characters and also Textboxes.

Styles are containers of formatting that can apply to text. In Word 97 they applied to characters or paragraphs.

By using direct formatting instead of styles you are adding a lot of complexity to a document. Usually, this complexity is not needed; it makes editing difficult.

These concepts are discussed as far as styles are concerned here: Importance of Styles in Word

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"Styles are nothing more than a named definition of how text should appear. You can best understand this by comparing your text to water (this is your content). The appearance of the water depends on the attributes of the container in which it is placed. If you place it in a glass it will look one way; if you place it in a pitcher, it looks a different way. The relationship between text and styles is no different; if you change the style that has been applied to text, then the appearance of the text automatically changes." Allen Wyatt Understanding Styles
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You will save yourself, and others, untold hours of hair-tearing. For shorter one-use documents, direct formatting is OK; you'll only regret not using styles about one time in six, on the other five out of the six, you'll save a bit of time. If you create document templates with direct formatting, you deserve what will happen to you when someone finds out (and it won't be nice). In my opinion, using direct formatting in document templates intended for use by others rates the words malicious and/or incompetent. If the templates are for your own use, you deserve the loss of days, months, even years from your life that you'll spend fighting with Word and trying to figure out why your documents look so bad.
Trying to use Word without understanding and using styles is like pushing on a string. I resisted learning and using styles for years and now regret every day of those years because although that string was still very hard to push, it kept getting longer and longer, and had some very important projects tied to it! Once you understand styles and the Word concept of organizing things into Chinese boxes everything falls into place and instead of pushing a string, you can push a button that turns on the very powerful text processing machine known as Microsoft Word and it will start doing your work for you instead of running around behind you trying to undo what you thought you just did.
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Old 03-09-2022, 03:20 PM
dw85745 dw85745 is offline WORD 97, Styles and MisFormatting of Text Windows 7 32bit WORD 97, Styles and MisFormatting of Text Office 97-2003
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Mr Kenyon:


Thanks for responding and the link to Words object model.
Had plan to pursue that this weekend depending on time.
Up to this POST, I had a tiger by the tail.
Trying to learn Word, the Courts eFIle system, Civil Procedures and do legal research to respond to three different motions, all with no help.
Two of pleading paper responses lined perfectly with the pledging numbers.
The third was correct on the first page BUT off on subsequent pages.
Did not appear anything was hidden.
Just solved it about an hour ago by creating a section after the first page,
and then adjusting the header to lesser value, played with the textbox a bit by offsetting it from the bottom of the header.

For whatever reason (????) it worked.


Regarding Styles.
I made a big mistake by not learning them up front.
I now have a handle on them and plan to create a number of them.
The biggest issue for me with styles, is previously I just made adhoc documents, as no need required, I thought,, because just a letter or two here and there.
Even with this CASE, the Defendant's attorney seems to use different styles depending on the document, so I've tried to mirror that style. WITHOUT creating styles.
BAD DECISION, which I won't repeat.


Off to bed, since been at this for over 48 hours straight, and everything is filed with the Court, so I hopefully I have a bit of breather.



STAY SAFE.

ThANKS again for your time.
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