Invisible paragraph in footnote

[José Augusto Filho]

Hi, everyone! I have a problem.

In some pages of my thesis the MSWord inserts one invisible paragraph at the end of all notes, but it is not good because it creates an enormous unnecessary withe space. And it doesn't let another footnote keep in the same page.



Thank you.

[Stefan Blom]

Instead of pressing Delete, try getting rid of the paragraph mark by backspacing.

[José Augusto Filho]

Thank you by answer me.

This problem is created by the MSWord. I don't have control about it. The footnotes are inserted by Clarivate ENDNOTE program, cite while write. In some page it is OK. But in another MSWord let enormous hole between text - footnote - page margin.

I don't want to go to In Design to do better layout to my thesis. I've already work very much.

Thank you.

[Stefan Blom]

Are you saying that backspacing also fails?

Are you allowed to share the document? You can upload it here as an attachment. Make a copy where you remove any sensitive content; just make sure that the problematic part with the footnote is present.

[macropod]

Originally Posted by José Augusto Filho

This problem is created by the MSWord. I don't have control about it. The footnotes are inserted by Clarivate ENDNOTE program, cite while write. In some page it is OK. But in another MSWord let enormous hole between text - footnote - page margin.

The problem is not created by MS Word - it is created by your other software or by the sources you're copying the references from. The solution is to do as Stefan suggested.

[José Augusto Filho]

Originally Posted by Stefan Blom

Are you saying that backspacing also fails?

Are you allowed to share the document? You can upload it here as an attachment. Make a copy where you remove any sensitive content; just make sure that the problematic part with the footnote is present.

Hi, Stefan! I'm sending one part of the file. I think it is enough to you investigate the problem.

Thank you.

[José Augusto Filho]

Originally Posted by macropod

The problem is not created by MS Word - it is created by your other software or by the sources you're copying the references from. The solution is to do as Stefan suggested.

Sorry, but i disagree. I've removed all footnote. After that, I try to insert footnote. After insert the number of reference, before I insert the citation, the invisible and ghost paragraph appear.

Thank for answer.

[Stefan Blom]

No superfluous paragraph mark present in the footnote area here, when I look at your example document. See screen shot.

[José Augusto Filho]

Originally Posted by Stefan Blom

No superfluous paragraph mark present in the footnote area here, when I look at your example document. See screen shot.

Yes, I'm seeing. But, in your example it change de font. I've tried to change the font my my document. But, the superfluous paragraph mark still is there.

Maybe it is because my software version, word 16 for Mac OS.

Anyway I'm grateful your help.

[Stefan Blom]

It isn't unusual for the font to be substituted when a document is moved from Mac OS to Windows. Even with a changed font, the problematic footnote should have been left intact, though.

On your system, do you see a difference if you change the font?

This is definitely a peculiar problem. It is of course possible that Endnote is a factor (perhaps the most important factor). I'm not using it myself, so I can't test that hypothesis.

[macropod]

Originally Posted by José Augusto Filho

After insert the number of reference, before I insert the citation, the invisible and ghost paragraph appear.

To put it bluntly, Word does not behave that way!

[Stefan Blom]

In a previous message, you wrote, "After insert the number of reference, before I insert the citation, the invisible and ghost paragraph appear." This is very unusual behavior.

If you temporarily disable Endnote, do you still see that behavior?

Have you checked with Endnote support for any updates (see Endnote support)?

[Robert2]

The footer area in "Teste footnote.docx" contains only a single paragraph end mark (a single empty paragraph). The page number is placed in a text box located partly outside the footer area. That text box is itself anchored to the empty paragraph in the footer. This is a most unusual setup for a Word document. You’d be better off doing as follows:
1. Select the text box and press the Del key to remove it with the page number.
2. Press the Del key again to remove the paragraph end mark associated with the "[Basic Paragraph]" style.
3. Insert the page number in the standard usual way in MS Word.
4. If need be, adjust the position of the page number and the size of the footer area.
HTH.

[Stefan Blom]

The footer area in "Teste footnote.docx" contains only a single paragraph end mark (a single empty paragraph). The page number is placed in a text box located partly outside the footer area. That text box is itself anchored to the empty paragraph in the footer. This is a most unusual setup for a Word document.

Actually, some of the built-in page number formats are using text boxes (to position the page number in the right hand margin, for example).

In the specific document that we are discussing here, the page number field is inside a frame which is anchored to the footer (right-click the frame and you'll see the Format Frame command on the context menu). This was actually a very common setup for page numbers, in older versions of Word. Perhaps the document has been created from an older template (and "upgraded" to the most recent file format).

Anyway, the page numbers do not affect the "mystery paragraph" which is the main topic for this thread. :-)

[Robert2]

The "mystery paragraph" serves as the anchor to the frame. They are linked. That’s why the "mystery paragraph" cannot be removed without removing the frame and the associated anchorage first. :-)