I took your advice from your first reply and removed the form fields and used read only with exceptions, this works no problem. I had previously tried the section break each side of the embedded doc. but would not work. Definitely the right section as I can type in the unprotected section where the doc is.

Will be handy to figure it out for future larger forms as its quicker to do form fields and select filling in forms.

But for now thank you very much

simy