Pagination in Different Sections

JBCook91 · #1 02-10-2014, 01:43 PM

I have three sections in my Word doc: 1) front matter with no pagination; 2) front matter with Roman pagination; and, 3) the body of the work with odd/even running head that includes Arabic pagination.

My problem is that I cannot insert the Roman pagination without either losing all its odd pages or removing all the odd pages of the third section. I have unchecked "same as previous" in all kinds of places, but it still keeps happening.

Any ideas? I'm desperate!

Thanks, Jennie

Charles Kenyon · #2 02-10-2014, 06:20 PM

See Header/Footer Settings Recap and How to set up a document with front matter 2007.

Different odd and even headers/footers is a document not a Section setting. If you want different odd and even headers/footers in one section you must do so for the entire document. That means that if you want the same headers / footers on even and odd pages in 2 sections and different even/odd in one section, in the two sections you will need copy the one you already have into the blank one.

JBCook91 · #3 02-10-2014, 07:15 PM

Thank you Charles! I really thought I was going insane!

Charles Kenyon · #4 02-11-2014, 06:46 AM

I spent a lot of time experimenting before I came up with that recap. I could be wrong; Herb Tyson's Word 2010 Bible says it is a Section Property. I have not tried via vba but just through the interface. That said, I would love to see a document with different even and odd headers/footers in just one section. Then I would like to know how it was produced.

macropod · #5 02-12-2014, 12:14 AM

Yes, it's only the 'Different odd and even' is a Document-level heading (not a Section-level heading), despite appearances to the contrary in the Page Layout dialogue.

FWIW, I've tried the VBA approach below on a 3-Section document, but it does the same as the dialogue:

Code:

Sub Test()
Dim HdFt As HeaderFooter, Scn As Section
With ActiveDocument
  With .Sections(1).PageSetup
    .DifferentFirstPageHeaderFooter = True
    .OddAndEvenPagesHeaderFooter = True
  End With
  With .Sections(2).PageSetup
    .DifferentFirstPageHeaderFooter = False
    .OddAndEvenPagesHeaderFooter = True
  End With
  With .Sections(3).PageSetup
    .DifferentFirstPageHeaderFooter = True
    .OddAndEvenPagesHeaderFooter = True
  End With
  For Each Scn In .Sections
    For Each HdFt In Scn.Headers
      With HdFt
        .LinkToPrevious = False
        .Range.Text = "Section: " & Scn.Index & vbTab & "Header: "
        Select Case .Index
          Case 1: .Range.InsertAfter .Index & " (wdHeaderFooterPrimary)"
          Case 2: .Range.InsertAfter .Index & " (wdHeaderFooterFirstPage)"
          Case 3: .Range.InsertAfter .Index & " (wdHeaderFooterEvenPages)"
        End Select
      End With
    Next
  Next
End With
End Sub

fumei · #6 02-12-2014, 01:20 AM

Yeah that apparent setting in the dialog of applying odd\even to a single Section has driven me bonkers for years. AFAIK it has been that way since 97. It has been mentioned as an error for a very very long time. I doubt it will change any time soon. I don't know why it would be a problem to make it reality, as I see no objection from a Object Model point of view. There may be issues with the backward retreat when you delete a Section break (the previous Section takes the quality of the Section being deleted), but really can it be that hard.

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