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Old 11-26-2013, 01:20 PM
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I have a pilcrow (carriage return symbol) that refuses to delete. When I had a problem like this a while back, it was solved by Suzanne Barnhill as described at the following link:

http://www.wordbanter.com/printthread.php?t=39328

But this one appears to be different. Unlike the diagnoses in the other case, it's not at the end of a document, and it is apparently not part of a table - at least selecting the nearby table doesn't select it even though I put it there initially to make the surrounding text relate to the table the way I wanted it to. I have attached an excerpt of the main document to this post, containing the place where the problem occurs; the problematic pilcrow is the one just after the word 'naturally' that I have placed in red so you could find it.

If this helps, I should point out that originally I placed the pilcrow at the very end of the preceding page (just a pilcrow, not a Ctrl-Enter page break), so the table with the text next to it would start at the top of the following page. But now I've had to insert text on the preceding page that made two extra lines flow to a position just above the table.

New development: I was subsequently able to solve the problem by taking the phrase "that no deaf signer would ever produce the simple string of signs john love that pretty woman, but that sequences of that sort are not what the language naturally" and moving it down to be level with the top of the table. But the pilcrow did not move with it. Instead it stayed where it was, which now became right after the phrase "this is not to say", at the end of the preceding page, where it had been initially placed. So obviously this pilcrow is somehow linked to that page (containing its formatting?). But if so, why did it move to the next page when material was inserted into the page it was on?



Unless I can understand this, the problem will happen again.

Many thanks for whatever help you may provide!
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Your table is attached to that paragraph break, so you can't delete the break. If you temporarily move the table, you'll be able to delete the break. Alternatively, you could drag the text following the paragraph break into that paragraph.
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Yes, thanks. As you can see from my edit, dragging the text is the solution I happened upon as a lucky guess. But how could the pilcrow ever get attached to the table? I typed it into the text, not into the table itself. Moreover, to make the first line of text beside the table line up with the top of the diagram it contained, I placed another pilcrow between the offending pilcrow and the line of text next to the table and reduced its font size so the text and diagram top lined up perfectly. So there was a separate pilcrow between the offending pilcrow and the table.
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But how could the pilcrow ever get attached to the table?
Quite easily when you change a table's text wrapping to 'around'...
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Oh, I see. That now makes perfect sense to me. Thanks!
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