oddly enough if I copy and paste it into another new document I DO get the footnote continuation separator. If I do that then i have to reformat the whole document..spacing defaults to 10 point anyone know how to get it to default to zero in word 2007

Are you saying that you were unable to display the Footnotes pane? On the View tab, click Draft; Word switches to Draft view. On the References tab, you'll find that the Show Notes button is clickable. Click it, and Word displays the footnotes pane at the bottom of the window. Click the arrow next to the drop down, and you'll find Footnote Separator, Footnote Continuation Separator, Footnote Continuation Notice, and All Footnotes as options.

When it comes to your second question—changing the spacing defaults—you can click the Manage Styles button in the Styles pane (Ctrl+Alt+Shift+S). On the Set Defaults tab of the dialog box, make the desired changes. In particular, change Spacing After and Spacing Before to zero. Select "New documents based on this template" in order to save the new settings to the template attached to the current document.

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