When I go to the folder Application Data/Microsoft/Templates, and I open "Document Template" or "Recipe Template", and I click view/headers and footers, I get the headers and footers displayed as the first picture in my previous post which is how they should be displayed.

When I go to the folder Application Data/Microsoft/Templates, and I open "Normal" or "Letter Template 1" or "Letter Template 2", and I click view/headers and footers, I get the headers and footers displayed as the second picture in my previous post which doesn't allow me to do the pagination right.

I'm using styles with the recipe template, but I don't use any macros. I'm using styles and macros with the letter templates.

Alright, I see that I have a problem with my normal.dot file. It has somehow gotten corrupted when I started using a lot of macros, styles and headers and footers. I renamed it to normal.old, and the new normal.dot file doesn't have any of these problems. I don't know if I will be able to keep my old normal.dot file and just get rid of the offending files. But, thanks for looking at this. I maybe be back. Thanks.