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Old 02-25-2025, 04:13 AM
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I have an Office 365 Word (vsn 2501) doc with many tables in it. At the time i made the doc, some months ago, I very carefully set the tables up (margins, padding, etc, etc) to precisely fit on the pages. For most, I ensured that there was generous space top and bottom. But some of them were tight fits. Yet all was well during the editing process. A pdf I made from the doc was just fine.


Now, months later, I open up the same doc to continue editing. All the tables that were tight fits have decided to spill over rows to the next page. I have changed nothing about the doc. The page size, table properties, etc are exactly as I created them.


My questions to you, Word sages, are:
1. Why has this happened?
2. Is there a easy way to rectify it, without redesigning all the tight-fit tables?


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On the same machine and Word version the most likely candidates are:
1. Different printer driver
2. Font has been installed that previously was substituted
3. Attached Template styles have been modified and you set your document to refresh styles on open.
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Hi All:
Thanks so much for the replies. I have uploaded a selection of the tables from the good pdf. As you can, they are fine. Unfortunately, I get a connection reset error when I try to upload the Word doc with the awry tables. I'll wok on it.

As to Andrew's excellent suggestions:
1. As far as I know, the printer drivers are the same as they have been for years.
2. Same fonts installed when the doc was created, and now.
3. Update styles automatically OFF.
4. I read Suzanne's suggestions, and fiddled with changing the printers. No, tables still awry.

Thanks for your time.
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Old 03-03-2025, 02:09 AM
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Default Word doc with bad tables- Dropbox link

Hi All:
Well, the easiest way is to provide the Word doc with the bad tables is from a Dropbox link.


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If you compare it to the pdf of that file senbt previously (from about page 54) you will see the tables have moved a lot.


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Well, the easiest way is to provide the Word doc with the bad tables is from a Dropbox link.
Please attach you document to your post here, not on a 3rd-party site. The process is exactly the same as for the PDF you attached. And we don't need the entire 183-page document, just the part(s) exhibiting the problem.
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Hi All:


Thanks for the reply. I got the pdf file to upload but not the Word doc.


I trimmed the Word doc down to just the problematic tables, set font embedding to just the characters used, and zipped it, but it was still larger than the 2 Mb zip limit.


Of course, the fonts used will affect the table sizing, so I can't change that.
Thanks everyone for their time.


Sigh.
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One obvious difference is that your Word document employs the font Noto Sans, but that font isn't referenced in your PDF. Using Find/Replace to swap the Noto Sans font with Arial (the Windows approximation of Helvetica used in your PDF) seems to resolve the problem.
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