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Old 10-23-2022, 10:13 AM
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I cannot get numbering to start after TOC in WORD 2007



I don't understand pagebreaks either

I moved the cursor to the bottom of TOC and clicked pagebreak
Then I opened the footer of the next pgae.
then I held pagenumber FORMAT
I selected START at 1

the page number of chapter 1 come su as 12

makes no sense.

design for barriers to entry, is WORD.

nothing is intuitive.
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Old 10-23-2022, 01:53 PM
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Headers, footers and page numbering are all properties of sections, not pages. So you should add a section break after the TOC, not a page break.

Page breaks are very simple - they force the following content onto a new page.
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Old 10-23-2022, 02:12 PM
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See Numbering Front Matter by Suzanne Barnhill, MVP.
While you can feel free to vent, nothing you write here is read or heard by anyone at Microsoft. This is a user-to-user support forum about Word.
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Old 10-25-2022, 06:43 AM
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...nothing is intuitive.
Depending on assumptions, expectations and experience, this is always true.
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Old 10-25-2022, 08:52 AM
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I cannot get numbering to start after TOC in WORD 2007

nothing is intuitive.
I'm not sure whether this applies, but if you are on the LinkedIn website, I recommend you look into the offer of your first month of LinkedIn Learning (formerly Lynda.com) for free. I think you have to use a card to secure future payment, but there is plenty you can do within a month. When I changed jobs, and went from an Excel-heavy workload to long documents with long appendices, I needed a refresher in some of the Word features. Any course on there taught by Gini von Courter, I recommend. Her instructions were really clear.

I did Word 2010 Essential Training, Word 2010: Tips, Tricks and Shortcuts, a class focusing on Styles (I should have done this second!), one on Forms, and one on Creating Long Documents, which made me realize how poorly our long documents were being done. We had 2010 at the time and have since changed to Office 365. I can't remember whether there were 2007-based classes, but it's worth a check. It's the best free training I could readily find. There are also more topic-focused videos on YouTube which can be helpful for picking up specific functions.

In the short term, as Italophile said, change the page break between TOC and your first page of your document you want page numbers to start on, to a Section Break (found on the Layout tab of the Ribbon) and then you can start a new header/footer. You could, for example, have any foreword and your table of contents be numbered ii and iii before starting with 1 through 10 in your main section.

Best of luck,

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Old 11-10-2022, 02:35 PM
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See Numbering Front Matter by Suzanne Barnhill, MVP.
While you can feel free to vent, nothing you write here is read or heard by anyone at Microsoft. This is a user-to-user support forum about Word.

Very well written article.
Hopefully it still applies to Word 2019.
(Will test it later)
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Old 11-10-2022, 03:47 PM
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makes no sense.

design for barriers to entry, is WORD.

nothing is intuitive.
Word is, in reality, very intuitive, if all you are trying to do is a simple note, letter, or memo. When you try something more complex, you need to learn how it works including some of its idiosyncrasies.

You will save yourself a lot of time and frustration by looking at these short tutorials.
Also, at least glance at Importance of Styles in Word.

If all you want is something simple, use WordPad. It comes with Windows.
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Old 11-10-2022, 03:58 PM
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Very well written article.
Hopefully it still applies to Word 2019.
(Will test it later)
Yes. It applies to every version of Word from 2007 on. Some controls may be in different places and the current Layout tab was earlier called the Page Layout tab.
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Old 11-10-2022, 04:27 PM
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Thanks for the rapid reply.
After much research I learned how to
insert page breaks and begin page numbering on a different page.
Problemm is,
even though I unlinked the sections, the initial section
the one that I wished not to be numbered,
did have some.
When I deleted them, the following section's numbers vanished
I ht reverse (Ctrl+Z) and tried changing the initial section
to a different format.
The following (unlinked) section copied its style.
Very confused...
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Old 11-10-2022, 09:51 PM
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Thanks for the rapid reply.
After much research I learned how to
insert page breaks and begin page numbering on a different page.
Problemm is,
even though I unlinked the sections, the initial section
the one that I wished not to be numbered,
did have some.
When I deleted them, the following section's numbers vanished
I ht reverse (Ctrl+Z) and tried changing the initial section
to a different format.
The following (unlinked) section copied its style.
Very confused...
That's section breaks, not page breaks! These are vey different in Word.
Have you looked at any of the other links I gave you? They will make it much easier for you to use Word.


Go back to Numbering Front Matter by Suzanne Barnhill, MVP. It is all in there.
To better understand headers and footers, see Header/Footer Settings Recap.
To better understand page numbers, see Page Numbers in Word 2007-2021 (365).
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Old 11-10-2022, 10:03 PM
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After much research I learned how to
insert page breaks and begin page numbering on a different page.
Problemm is,
even though I unlinked the sections, the initial section
the one that I wished not to be numbered,
did have some.
When I deleted them, the following section's numbers vanished
I ht reverse (Ctrl+Z) and tried changing the initial section
to a different format.
The following (unlinked) section copied its style.
Very confused...
You added the same text this evening at the end of an older thread on section breaks and numbering problems. Please stick to one thread for your question.
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Old 11-11-2022, 05:00 AM
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Ack.
Yep.
I went through and did what was explained
Not sure where the error is coming from
Operator probably
Walked through
"How to set up a document with front matter numbered separately..."
Separated main document from front matter,
inserted page numbering for the main document,
and the first time it was blank with the numbers going into the front matter
the next time it kept both sections numbered the same.
Could be I have been at it too long and need a break..?
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Old 11-11-2022, 08:20 AM
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Yes, it could be that you need a break, yourself.
  1. Section break between parts (either next-page or odd-page). Not a page break.
  2. in second section where you want the page numbering, unlink the headers/footers from previous. This is an individual setting for each header or footer (three of each per section). You may only need to unlink the primary footer.
  3. Set up your page numbers and the starting number.
  4. Go back to your front matter section and either remove page numbers or format them the way you want (i.e. Roman numerals).
Please take the time to look at the links I gave you. They will make your life more pleasant.
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Old 11-11-2022, 06:00 PM
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Yep. Thank you. Taking a day off and will get back to it with fresh eyes soon.
Thank you for your patience.
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Old 11-13-2022, 10:20 PM
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Yes, it could be that you need a break, yourself.
  1. Section break between parts (either next-page or odd-page). Not a page break.
  2. in second section where you want the page numbering, unlink the headers/footers from previous. This is an individual setting for each header or footer (three of each per section). You may only need to unlink the primary footer.
  3. Set up your page numbers and the starting number.
  4. Go back to your front matter section and either remove page numbers or format them the way you want (i.e. Roman numerals).
Please take the time to look at the links I gave you. They will make your life more pleasant.

Done! Thank you.
Those instructions, as stated above, were just what I needed.
Printed them out for future reference for next time I get temporary amnesia.
Very appreciated.
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