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As an aside, it's extraordinary the way some Word books say different things about the same features -- I'm thinking about templates. And I'm talking about good books : Special Edition Using Word 2003, Special Edition using Office 2003, Word 2003 Bible, Word 2003 Inside Out... Word 2003 for Dummies even contradicts itself on the subject in two different places.

Please see my web page: Templates in Microsoft Word


Although I've tried to update it to the Ribbon versions, it was written for Word 2000-2003 initially and still contains all of the information for those versions.


What differences are you seeing?

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Please see my web page: Templates in Microsoft Word
Thank you. Your site is an absolutely terrific resource, it helped me understand things that are explained nowhere else (certainly not in books), and it's among the topmost sources I've referenced for my own use.

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What differences are you seeing?
They relate to where elements are stored (document / attached template / normal.dot / global templates), and whether it's possible or impossible to store them there, versus recommended or discouraged.

Different authors have different versions. The whole picture is so complex that I resorted to writing my own user manual for my own use.

The inside contradiction I was referring to is in Word 2003 All-in-One Desk Reference For Dummies, by Doug Lowe, Wiley, 2004. In Working with Templates (p.47) , he says :

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Macros are always stored in a template, so any macros you create
or modify are stored in the template, not in the document itself.
And in Where Do All the Macros Go (p. 671), he says :

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You can store macros in documents or in templates. When you create a
macro, you have three choices for where to store the macro:
✦ The current document
✦ The template thatís attached to the current document
✦ The Normal.dot template
Mind you, I'm not lambasting these guys. They worked against a schedule over an incredibly complex program (the development of which was probably not even finished at that time). And there's no way I could be using Word properly without those books.
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Even though the writing is not great, I am very proud of that page. It was ported to the Microsoft site a long time ago but never updated there.

Another good one on these questions is:
What is the relationship between a Microsoft Word document and its template?


In my opinion, the best place for macros is in templates other than normal.dotm. Either the document template or another global template. You cannot record to a global template, but you can move macros once you have them recorded or written. Generally, anything I depend on is in another template.
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Yes, great page by Shauna Kelly. So simple, and yet so enlightening. I'm collecting all those pieces of ancient wisdom and hard work.

I've just started putting all my customisations in global templates. Trying to keep my normal.dot as empty as possible.
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[I split these posts off from your original question about outline view because we were going in a totally different direction.]

My normal.dotm has hundreds of macros. However, they are not the ones I use. They are the ones I post to help people. I also have a macro that backs up the normal template.
Backup Normal.dotm template using a macro
The normal template is the best location for generally used styles. Ones for particular documents need to be in document templates.
Moving (Sharing) Customizations in Microsoft Word
Keyboard shortcuts to macros, toolbar modifications that use the macros (and in later editions QAT icons related to macros) should be in the same global or document template that contains the macros.
One utility you should have is Chris Woodman's Keyboard Shortcut Organizer, that also gives you easy control of Document Variables. Here, too, is a link to my download page's description of this utility. (The download on my page is to a .dotm version that goes in the Ribbon.)


See also: Organizing your macros by Beth Melton, Word MVP
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