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I'm using Word 2016 on a Windows 10 laptop. I am formatting a book to go to a printer, and I am definitely NOT expert with Microsoft Word. I'm hoping someone will be able to help me with some step-by-step instructions on how to do what I need to do.



I have a page number as m footer, which appears on every page. I have different headers on the Odd and Even pages. On the first page of each new chapter (and a few other pages), I don't want the header to appear. I understand about making section breaks at the end of each chapter. I also have some understanding of choosing Different Odd & Even Pages, and Different first page. But I can't seem to get it to work the way I need it to. I might need to start with doing the header on the even page (page 2), then go back to page one and create it, then tell it different first page. But I don't really know, nor do I have a clear understanding of exactly what I'm doing.

I did come to an understand a few books ago that when I have (essentially) three different headers (Odd, Even, and Different first page), that I also have three different footers, but so far, that hasn't caused a problem.

Are there any templates anywhere that exist in the format I need that I can use to start each new book (for the header/footer situation)?

Is there anyone out there who can give me step-by-step instructions for how to set up my document? If I had that, I would be able to refer back to it every time.

Thanks in advance to anyone who is able to help. I will be eternally grateful.

Barbara
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Start with a blank document and add several pages of dummy text.

On the layout tab > Page Setup > Layout, check Different OIdd and Even and Different First Page and set applies to This section.

Insert an odd page section break (or even or next page) as required at the end of page 5.

Now add all the header and footer texts that you require to each of the available headers and footers.

Ensure link to previous remains unchecked in the second section.

(See attached)

Delete all the text from the document. The headers and footers should then work as you require them when you add text to the document.

Save that document as a template from which to create new similar documents.
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How can I get a different header/footer on the second page?
Numbering Front Matter (Ribbon) by Suzanne Barnhill, MVP
Those are likely all you will need.
For the nitty-gritty: Header/Footer Settings Recap
Suzanne Barnhill has a template here: http://wordfaqs.ssbarnhill.com/tutorials.htm
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You want to start your book and your chapters on odd-pages so you will want odd-page section breaks.
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Graham, I can't thank you enough. This worked Just as you described. I was able to add my headers and page numbers, and all looks well in the template. But when I go into my original document, there is already a header and footer (page number). In between every chapter, I have inserted a Next Page Section Break (I can't use even/odd because the text will probably change before I'm done). In the template, I even set my font, line spacing, justification, margins, gutter, etc. That way, the template would be ready to receive the book text when it is edited and ready to go to the printer (I was hoping).

Ideally, I would like to leave the headers/footer (page numbers) in the template, plus all the other formatting, and leave in the first few pages of dummy text. Then I would like to copy the text of my original document and paste it into the template -- and then delete the dummy text at the end.

I went into the headers and footer in the original document, and deleted all the text, but it still says "same as previous" even though there is nothing there. I can't figure out how to make that go away.

I tried copying in a few chapters to the template (in front of the dummy text, but the headers I had inserted into the template didn't "stick." I'm thinking that "same as previous" might be the problem, but I don't know what to do about that.

Also, when I went to paste the text into the template, my options were to keep source formatting (I'm assuming the source is the template), or merge formatting. I tried it with source formatting, but it didn't work.

If you can provide any further assistance, I will be eternally grateful. Would it help if I sent you my "revised" template and/or some of the text I'm trying to insert into it?

Thank you very much.

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