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Old 09-27-2015, 05:53 AM
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Overall I've been very happy with the PDFs created with the MS Save as PDF Add-in, but there's one problem I can't figure out. A PDF look just fine, but if I copy and paste some text from it, there are spaces in the middle of words where they shouldn't be; therefore I have to review and correct every time. Besides this, if I need to search the PDF it doesn't always find everything because it's reading spaces that don't show by just looking. Would anyone know why it might be doing this or have any idea how to correct it? I'd like to keep using MS Save as PDF as it always works very good except for this one thing. Word 2007, Windows XP SP3. Thanks.

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Old 09-27-2015, 11:43 AM
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I did some testing and when I used left alignment it doesn't do it. All my documents are justified so this seems to be the culprit. I tried justified with Kerning enabled and disabled, and with different values, but that didn't make any difference.

I love justified as compared with left-align so I don't realistically see myself changing. I'd like to figure out if there's a way to compensate for this anomaly with justify.
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Old 09-27-2015, 12:40 PM
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I am not sure that the Add-In of which you speak is a Microsoft product. What leads you to believe that it is. I have Word 2007 installed and it has no such Add-In unless I activate the Adobe Acrobat Add-In. It does allow saving as a pdf file under the Save As dialog, though.

How, exactly, are you saving as pdf. That is, what series of commands are you using?

I assume that you are aware that justified text produced by Word is harder to read than left-justified (ragged-right) text.
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Old 09-27-2015, 01:14 PM
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It's from Microsoft. You have to install it. After it's installed the PDF option is available in 'save as.'

I tried condensing the text by .1 and .2. It closed the spaces in some places but opened up new ones elsewhere. Go figure.
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The MS SaveAsPDF addin has a few bugs. Complaints of it dropping characters from the PDFs it generates are, if not commonplace, frequent enough to indicate there is a problem. I've had that experience myself, which is why I prefer the Adobe product.
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Old 09-27-2015, 03:13 PM
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macropod I tried Acrobat XI Pro but had a lot of problems as far as getting it to work with Word. I've got XP SP3 and Word 2007. Would you know if there's a lite version of Acrobat, or an older version that might work better for me?

I've also got Kutools for Word. Have you ever heard of it conflicting with Acrobat?
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Adobe Acrobat Pro 8 is available as a free download. See: http://www.techspot.com/downloads/46...at-8-free.html (note the serial# mentioned there).
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Old 09-27-2015, 03:45 PM
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Looks promising. I'm downloading now but will probably install tomorrow. I'll keep you posted. Many thanks!
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Old 09-27-2015, 04:19 PM
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I'm glad Macropod joined this conversation. Although I have Word 2007 installed, I never use it (never did). I have the Office 2007 Enterprise edition. The Add-In you note is not installed yet the SaveAs PDF option is available. This is in Word Safe mode with the Adobe Add-In disabled.

The screen shots attached are to the Save As PDF or XPS choice under the Office button, the resulting dialog, and the dialog you get using F12 (SaveAs). The final screen shot is of the program listing under the control panel.



Again, in my Word 2007, these are available without the Add-In.
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I tried using the save as pdf for fully justified text in Word 2007 on my system. I did not experience the problems you report.
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Old 09-28-2015, 10:11 AM
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Acrobat 8 installer said it's compatible with Word up to version 2003. I tried it anyway but couldn't get it to work with Word 2007.

I tried Acrobat 11 again and the text comes out perfect. If I save as .docx and then convert, images and everything come out perfect except for one Shape that doesn't get saved. I'm sending the page the Shape is on if anyone would like to troubleshoot it. I'm afraid I have no idea at this point. The Shape is the oversized { in the middle of the page. If you need more pages let me know, the whole thing is 25mb and I believe that exceeds the size limit for attachments. Thanks.
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Old 09-28-2015, 10:51 AM
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What is the paper size that your file is configured in? Is it the same size you are trying to convert the .pdf into?

The only way I can get the .pdf to include all graphics is to change the paper size to 8.5 x 11 inches. And, when I do, it goes from one page to three pages. (I might add that I changed the graphics to .jpegs then reinserted).

Note: I went back and checked the page size...8.5 x 22". Is that the page size throughout the whole document?

I jumped in on this thread maybe much too late so, if my comments are out-of-touch with the original question...kindly disregard.
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Old 09-28-2015, 11:33 AM
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Hey Jim. Yes the paper size is 8.5 x 22. I'll try to explain my logic in doing it that way.

I never create documents for printing, I create them for my own use to view electronically so I set the paper length as long as possible to reduce the number of pages. I use section breaks at the end of every page so I have better control of page breaks. For example, say there's a picture that's too big for the end of page 1, I move it to page 2 and create a section break at the end of page 1. Then I readjust the paper size for that section so it cuts off the empty space at the end of page 1. Normally Word would just move the picture to page 2 and leave the space at the end of page 1. So what I end up with are pages that are different lengths. Another reason is so I have a little leeway if later I need to go back and enter something I forgot. I can just adjust one section instead of the whole document shifting.

This could be what's causing the problem, I don't know. If there's a better or easier way I'd change, but at this point it's the best way I know of for what I want to do.
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What happens if you remove the MS Add-In? Only do this if you can add it back in. Again, my Word converts to pdf fine without the Add-In.
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I actually did uninstall the MS PDF Add-in and Kutools for Word this time before installing Acrobat, but it didn't seems to make any difference.

You have Enterprise and I have Office Home and Student. That might be the difference.
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