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Old 06-25-2014, 02:04 AM
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Hi,

I'm using Word 2010, and I have received a Word document that contains both German and Polish text, but the language of the document is set to German throughout.

Is there any function in Word that I can use to identify all (or most) of the Polish parts of the text and mark them with correct language? I know that Word has this kind of language identification functionality since it is able have a shot at identifying your language as you type, but I can't see any function for processing an existing document in this way.



Please help; I really don't want to have to do this manually!

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I know of no such function and usually have the automatic recognition as you type turned off because, for me, it causes more headaches than it relieves.
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Yes, you, I and, to judge from forum posts, 99% of other Word users turn the automatic language detection off because of the annoyance it causes during normal text editing.

That makes it doubly annoying that the functionality cannot be accessed for one of the few circumstances in it would be genuinely useful! I have a large document with alternating German and Polish sentences, and I need to hide the Polish parts (so that they are ignored by translation software). So it seems that the only way to do this is to manually identify and mark each Polish sentence even though, theoretically, Word has the functionality to detect language!
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Hi,

as the whole document is set to German languageID, you can use the spellchecker to have all 'incorrect' words/sentences/passages marked. Than you can select theses passges and set the language to Polish. IMHO that seems to be the fastest way to do that manually.

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Old 06-25-2014, 07:38 AM
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Well, yes, that was what I was hoping to avoid. There are hundreds of alternating German / Polish sentences in the document, and it'll be a right pain to go through and mark them all manually. What a shame that Microsoft's automatic language detection can't be used for this purpose!
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Stupid work, I see ...

Maybe there is a VBA based solution: Looping through all paragraphs and counting misspelled words. Whenever - lets say - five misspelled words are found at the beginning of a paragraph the language ID will be set to Polish.

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Old 06-25-2014, 08:00 AM
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Yes, that's an idea. Or maybe it's possible to access the language detection functionality from a VBA macro. Thanks!
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http://gregmaxey.com/word_tip_pages/..._document.html

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Another possibility:

Search for typical Polish words (VBA). Set range on paragraph where .Found = True, set languageID to Polish, continue search.

That's not too tricky - if you know typical Polish words .

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Only you can decide whether it's worth the effort, and only you know the visual relationship of the two languages in the doucment … but perhaps you could roll up your sleeves and go for a two-column layout where the different languages use different styles.

.mif, which I believe most translation software is happy with, lets you wrap phrases in a language tag – but it's not really meant for humans to write. The xml lang attribute can also help. Unfortunately, I can't see any option that would save you from the chore of having to prep your text outside Word.
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Another possibility:

Search for typical Polish words (VBA).
Not need to search for words. As the Polish alphabet is very different to the German, it should be enough to search for a 'typical' character e.g. "ł". Then same procedure as mentioned in my last post.

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You might try a macro like:
Code:
Sub SetPolishSpelling()
Dim i As Long, j As Long, k As Long
With ActiveDocument
  Application.ResetIgnoreAll
  With .Range
    .LanguageID = wdGerman
    .NoProofing = False
    For i = 1 To .Sentences.Count
      With .Sentences(i)
        If .SpellingErrors.Count > 0 Then
          j = .SpellingErrors.Count
          .LanguageID = wdPolish
          If .SpellingErrors.Count > j Then
            .LanguageID = wdGerman
            For k = 1 To .SpellingErrors.Count
              .SpellingErrors(i).HighlightColorIndex = wdYellow
            Next
          Else
            For k = 1 To .SpellingErrors.Count
              .SpellingErrors(i).HighlightColorIndex = wdBrightGreen
            Next
          End If
        End If
      End With
    Next
  End With
End With
End Sub
In theory, the above macro should convert each 'sentence' that has more spelling errors as a German sentence than as a Polish sentence to Polish. In either case, any residual spelling errors will be highlighted. One limitation of looping through sentences is that what Word VBA regards as a sentence includes phrases terminated by periods such as you might have after an abbreviation (e.g. Mr., Mrs.). If your German & Polish sentences were in different paragraphs, checking would be much easier and probably more reliable.
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While it may not at the frontend (in that you would have to go through "manually") if you had the German in one style and the Polish in another style, that would make identification after the easy. You could make each language style have a shortcut (say Ctrl-g and Ctrl-p) which would make assigning the style fairly easy. You can move through a document pretty fast that way.

And if certain characters CAN be used in a paragraph to identify a language then using that to assign a style could be automated. The point being is that once separated by style (and of course the different styles could look the same in terms of FORMAT) performing actions (like hiding them) on the style/language is straightforward.

The above may not help. Just a thought.

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