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I have landscape sections of a document which have the header on the right and the footer on the left. How can I change this to have the header on the left and the footer on the right?
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My first thought was this: See if you find http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...apesection.htm useful.

However, if you are referring to how pages are being printed, look for a setting in your printer driver.
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My first thought was this: See if you find http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting...apesection.htm useful.

However, if you are referring to how pages are being printed, look for a setting in your printer driver.
Thanks for your response.
My document consists of a first section in portrait mode, followed by a section in landscape. The landscape section consists of a mixture of text and tables. When printed and bound into a document I want the reader to be able to flip the pages and read the pages with the footer towards him/her – that is with the footer on the right side of the page. Of course when binding a document I can manually rotate the landscape pages – but that seems to be rather primitive.
I gather from your response that I need to use some sort of framing technique and that there is no simple word command “Move landscape heading to the left/right” available.
Let’s see what I can do, and thanks again.
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Thanks for your response.
My document consists of a first section in portrait mode, followed by a section in landscape. The landscape section consists of a mixture of text and tables. When printed and bound into a document I want the reader to be able to flip the pages and read the pages with the footer towards him/her – that is with the footer on the right side of the page. Of course when binding a document I can manually rotate the landscape pages – but that seems to be rather primitive.
I gather from your response that I need to use some sort of framing technique and that there is no simple word command “Move landscape heading to the left/right” available.
Let’s see what I can do, and thanks again.

Later:
My fall-back solution is to convert to PDF and rotate the landscape pages. This is a bit of a nuisance since when editing I have to go back to the Word version and then repeat the PDF step before printing. However, when distributing by e-mail I know that I don’t irritate people by forcing them to read a document upside down.
I would still like to have an elegant Word solution - “Move landscape heading to the left/right”.
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Thanks for the follow-up.

In Word, when you change a section to landscape, headers and footers remain at the top and bottom of the page, respectively. As you have found, to accomplish something else, you'll need to be creative.
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My problem is not so much “headers and footers”, it is that when I produce a document with mixed portrait and landscape sections I want the “top” of the landscape pages to be at the spine side of the document – in other words to the left. This is especially critical when I have thick bound or stapled documents and mixed text and tables. It is much easier to flip through this information (especially long tables) if the “top” of the landscape page is to the left.

Once I convert to PDF I can rotate pages, but I had hoped that Word would provide such a feature.

Thanks again for your trouble – at least I now know that I’m not missing a simple solution to the problem.
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Yes, of course the problem here is that you want different things for different pages, and Word can't do that without manual intervention. As far as I know, no printer can do it automatically either.
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Quickly scanning this thread, so I may have missed something obvious – but have you considered redefining the header/footer content in the landscape sections? there's nothing to prohibit incuding (say) a page number in a header … now you know where Word is going to position each block of content when you output landscape pages, fool it by feeding it the content you want to see in the areas it wants to generate :-}
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My problem is not the content of headers and footers. It is that when I start a new section in landscape mode I want the top of the text to read from the spine side of the document. In other words I would like to replicate the function Rotate in Acrobat, where I can select the complete set of pages in the landscape section – and choose Direction: Counterclockwise 90 degrees. This does the trick, but of course it only works once I have generated a pdf version of my document. The portrait sections remain unaffected

What I have been looking for is a function in Word which will do this – but I fear that it is not available. I notice that swifty2010 posted the same problem on 5-13-2010 and got no proposed solution. So I guess that for me, I’ll have to live with the Acrobat solution. But at least it is a solution.

Actually I could live with the current Word set-up, but I get complaints from people receiving my documents. These days it’s hard enough to get anyone to read anything so I try and put as few obstacles as possible in their way.

However – if you do think of something, I’m eager to hear it.

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If, instead of changing page orientation to landscape, you used a single-cell borderless table for your landscape portion, you could orient the text in the table to be 90 degrees counter-clockwise.
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If, instead of changing page orientation to landscape, you used a single-cell borderless table for your landscape portion, you could orient the text in the table to be 90 degrees counter-clockwise.
Thanks, I'll have a look at this when I get time this evening. Will I be able to include tables running over multiple pages with repeat headings?
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The text in the table can run over multiple pages. You could add another row in the table and designate that as a header row if you want. You can also continue portrait headers/footers around the table. Otherwise, if you want landscape headers/footers the table can be in a separate section. In that case, since this is still a portrait section, you could use a variation on the solution in How to Put a Portrait Page Number on a Landscape Page by Bill Coan, MVP, Dave Rado, MVP, and Suzanne Barnhill, MVP.
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One problem with this is that headings (not headers) and TC fields inside a table will not be picked up in a Table of Contents.
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With just a quick experiment, I can see this will work for small tables but for a large number of rows, it becomes very cumbersome.

I have now turned the text so I can read in pseudo landscape whilst still in portrait mode. However my “rows” are treated by Word still as columns. There is no automatic spill over to the next page as I would get in true landscape mode. Extending my individual “my rows” or adding extra “my rows” will cause the table to run outside the page boundary.

The only page spill over would come if I increased the number of “my columns” which would not happen.

Effectively I would have to create a separate table for each page, with the left hand column being the header.

Unless I have misunderstood.
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You are correct. Sorry, I missed that you were including tables in your landscape section.
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