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Old 11-30-2013, 06:00 PM
Pat_Hodgson Pat_Hodgson is offline First section will not 'insert' blank page even though sectn 2 is 'odd' page break Windows 7 32bit First section will not 'insert' blank page even though sectn 2 is 'odd' page break Office 2007
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Default First section will not 'insert' blank page even though sectn 2 is 'odd' page break

This is driving me mad!
First section of the document may extend on to a third page - so next section should start on an 'odd' page break ie 5. Seems logical, and indeed if the 2nd section spills over in to 3 pages, there is a blank page inserted... (blank even pages show in print preview) but for some God forsaken reason the first section will not insert that blank page 4! which throws out the remaining document sections.


There are loads of solutions about the net to delete "extra" blank pages - but I can't find a solution for missing blanks.
I've tried everything I could find...

Thanks in advance,

Pat.

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Old 11-30-2013, 06:52 PM
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You should NOT be "inserting a blank page." There is no command to "insert a blank page." I'm not sure what you are donig.

Try at the bottom of your page three formatting the paragraph for page break before. What happens?

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Old 11-30-2013, 07:24 PM
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Charles,
thanks but page break before didn't work. I am not inserting blank pages, Word is, in print preview. Like I say all the 'back' ie blank pages to the other sections are being inserted as they should be; just this first section isn't playing ball! By not inserting 'page 4' it throws off all the other pages. It prints what should be page 5, on the back of page 3...
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:29 AM
JimP JimP is offline First section will not 'insert' blank page even though sectn 2 is 'odd' page break Windows 7 32bit First section will not 'insert' blank page even though sectn 2 is 'odd' page break Office 2010 32bit
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As Charles indicated above, Word does not insert blank pages. If what you perceive to be a blank page being inserted, I would suspect that would be a result of your page setup parameters and/or styles forcing another page. However, that being said, your subsequent text should follow without any blank pages.

If you could upload/post the portion of your document (removing any personal data) for others to review, it would be helpful.
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:48 PM
Pat_Hodgson Pat_Hodgson is offline First section will not 'insert' blank page even though sectn 2 is 'odd' page break Windows 7 32bit First section will not 'insert' blank page even though sectn 2 is 'odd' page break Office 2007
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"in print preview" I know there are no 'real' blank pages inserted into the actual document...
PP1 Print preview of section one (first two pages) and section two (next two pages) etc
PP2 Print preview - note the virtual 'blank' page inserted due to section two having had more text input causing it to run to 3 pages in length.
PP3 Print preview - no 'blank' added when section one has additional text added to it; which buggers up the duplex printing!


Here's a slimmed down copy, the full version has 12 sections, of the doc causing me all this grief!

Thanks
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Old 12-01-2013, 02:34 PM
jec1 jec1 is offline First section will not 'insert' blank page even though sectn 2 is 'odd' page break Windows 7 32bit First section will not 'insert' blank page even though sectn 2 is 'odd' page break Office 2013
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If you want your new page to start on the next ODD page break you have to specify that in your layout

Your page layout is incorrect. Try the attached.

Even better run this macro:
If desired, you can also create a macro that will step through the document, look at each section, decide how many pages are in the section, and then add a page break at the end of the section, if necessary. The following macro does this very task:


Code:
Sub CheckSecLen() 
    Dim iSec As Integer 
    Dim oRng As Range 
    Dim iValue As Integer 
    With ActiveDocument 
         ' go through each section (except for the last one)
        For iSec = 1 To .Sections.Count - 1 
             ' create a range object at the start of the section
            Set oRng = .Sections(iSec).Range 
            oRng.Collapse wdCollapseStart 
             ' insert a sectionpages field
            .Fields.Add Range:=oRng, Type:=wdFieldSectionPages 
             ' divide the sectionpages field by 2
             ' if it gives a zero as the remainder, then
             ' you have an even number of pages in the section,
             ' which is what you want with an odd section page break
            If (.Sections(iSec).Range.Fields(1).Result Mod 2) <> 0 Then 
                 ' if you have an odd number of pages, then insert
                 ' a page break before the section's section break
                Set oRng = .Sections(iSec).Range 
                With oRng 
                    .Collapse Direction:=wdCollapseEnd 
                    .MoveEnd unit:=wdCharacter, Count:=-1 
                    .InsertBreak Type:=wdPageBreak 
                End With 
            End If 
             ' remove the sectionpages field that was added
            .Sections(iSec).Range.Fields(1).Delete 
        Next iSec 
    End With 
End Sub
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Old 12-01-2013, 04:22 PM
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Nope all breaks were set to start on the next ODD page - that was the rub. However with Different odd even checked section one behaves like section two and doesn't then throw off the duplexing. But I did have to copy the headers/footers. Hopefully this will now run #ok on the works PC/printer config.
Fingers crossed.
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