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Default Fancy Graphics NOTE Textbox

I want to order a graphical textbox for Word 7 from a designer.

See attached sample. Fancier than that though.

This textbox is typically for 2 - 6 lines, it varies.

How do I order it. What do I have to tell the designer?
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:27 PM
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Default Fancy Chapter Heading

What do I tell the graphics artist to get fancy chapter heading in Word 7?

Example attached.

I just want to communicate the correct specs.

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Old 07-23-2012, 01:31 PM
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Default Fancy Bullets

What do I tell the graphics designer to get fancy bullets?

Example is attached.

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Old 07-23-2012, 09:37 PM
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I mean I have to go to the graphics artist and say it:

"I need fancy graphics note box for Word 7".

I just want to say it using the correct terminology.
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Typically, one would provide a sample of what is required, or have the graphics artist work from a general description to produce a range of options from which a choice might be made. Ultimately, both parties need to agree on what it looks like.

There's an old adage: "A picture is worth a thousand words".
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What is it called in Word what I am ordering? "Graphical text box which stretches"
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If you want the description for a particular Word object, look at the description in whatever screen you used to insert it. Frankly, even that won't mean anything to a graphics designer who doesn't use Word - and few if any would for book production. In any event, if you're supplying the final copy, they probably don't even need to know, since they can probably just import your Word document's content.

FWIW I think you're straying too far into the publisher's domain. Your role should be to manage the content and leave them to manage the area for which they have the expertise (design and layout).
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But I don't have the Word Object. I've just seen the Word Objects in other books:

1. Fancy graphics Note textbox
2. Fancy chapter heading with background graphics and special letter designs
3. Fancy graphics bullets

I can do simple (boring) textbox.

I can do simple dot (boring) bullets.

Probably I can do fancy font Chapter Heading but the letters are sitting over graphics background.

In other words, Paul, I reached a point in my life that I am ready to go fancy graphics, no longer satisfied with plain Word text document.
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So how do you know they were ever 'Word' objects? The mere fact you've seen something in another book - even a book about Word - doesn't mean that whatever you saw in the book was produced in Word.

Ultimately, you need to decide whether you want to spend the time it requires to learn how to exploit Word's full potential, or leave the layout issues to someone with the required tools (which probably aren't based on Word) and skills.
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I agree with Paul.

You can set a heading format to have a border and/or background as a part of the style definition. However, if you are handing this to a publisher, you are probably making their job harder. If you are self-publishing you can try the style.
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Hi Charles,

I agree with Paul too and certainly appreciate his help.

However, my book cannot be second rate graphically! I want to push Word to its limits. I have access to graphics designers. I just don't know how to tell them what I need in Word official terminology.

You can put the best content in the world into a book, if the graphics not good, it is a handicap. I don't know at the moment if it will be published directly from Word.

Setting the background & border graphics for Heading 1 (chapters) sounds good!

That solves one problem. Two other issues: fancy graphics textbox and fancy bullets?
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SQLUSA: As I said before, if you want a particular format, show the designers. Clearly, you can do as as you've been able to show us. That is not the same as saying Word can or should be used to create those items. Your publisher almost certainly won't be using Word for the publication. Word is a word processor, not a page layout application like, say, Publisher (and few professionals use Publisher). And, despite what you say you want, your publisher quite probably has other ideas about what their publications should look like (as far as they're concerned, you're the author, not the publisher).

As for the various elements you've depicted in this (merged) thread, your 'Framed Shaded Box' and 'Fancy Graphics NOTE Textbox', for example, aren't something Word can do. Your 'fancy chapter heading' is doable so far as the number and text are concerned, but the background would require a graphics object placed behind the text. Word can do the placement, but not the graphic's creation. Word can do the bullets, quite easily.
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