I've come across an infuriating problem I can't seem to solve.



My document appears to have a page break in - but when I go on show/hide (the backwards P that means you can see returns/spaces white space characters) there is no break!

I can copy and paste paragraphs from below above this imaginary break, but things get funny around some of the tables. I think the tables are the cause, even though the break isn't always directly above them they seem reluctant (unlike text) to go above this imaginary break, and when I copy them it sometimes it changes places etc.

I have no idea what the problem is, it only seems to happen in this one document (or rather with these tables, as they produce similar issues copied into other documents)

Has anyone come across this?

Cheers.

Solved the problem by just trying to find out any interesting tricks with word!

Checked the similar posts and one came up going on about "soft breaks". Thought, "hey that might be a way to keep paragraphs from breaking over pages, that would be useful". Turned out it wasn't but I did learn how to do it - paragraph->Line and page breaks! Noticed a "keep with next" option. Turned out that was the issue, large blocks were set to "keep with next".

Is there any way to break up "keep with next" into blocks without adding a new paragraph/return?

For example I have

Title
Text
Title
Text
Title
Text

If I select the first Title and Text blocks and select "keep with next" it works nicely, but when I select the second two it adds that on to the first. To get what I want I have to add a return "paragraph" to hold a false "keep with next" value so they break over pages in their groups of two!

Don't select the last paragraph in the block when adding keep with next. So... if you have 1 heading and 3 paras, only select the heading and the first 2 paras. Formatting in the last para determines how it behaves with the next line.

Thanks, so for my one paragraph bits I just need to make the heading keep with next and the paragraph underneath keep lines together.

I'm having a little problems trying to get my tables to work in the same way though - it would work fine if I could set Allow break across pages to false then it works fine (like one paragraph with keep lines together on) however, sometimes the tables are longer than a page, so I need them to break across pages, but preferably keep with the title above.

If I set the last paragraph in the table to not keep with next it works fine for table breaking, but I can't have the line before the table keep with next or all the tables keep together.

I've tried to attach an example!

Attached Files

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For your tables, you don't need the 'keep with next' or 'keep together' paragraph attributes. All you need to do is to un-check the table row's 'Allow row to break across pages' option.

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Paul Edstein
[Fmr MS MVP - Word]

That works fine for small tables, however these tables are one cell and can be quite large. Really shouldn't be using tables! Sadly its dificult to do it any other way (document is generated using VBA).

I found section breaks seem to work, as does adding a tiny size 1 line without keep with next checked.

Thanks

If you provide more detail about what you're trying to achieve, maybe some better advice could be given. One can only work with what's available.

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Paul Edstein
[Fmr MS MVP - Word]