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Old 01-30-2023, 11:58 AM
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You know on the Word ribbon, we can add additional tabs and load them with additional tools / macros on the ribbons on each tabs.

I have 2 ultra wide monitors 34", and there are 34 tabs, and I can see them all perfectly (most are Word Office 365, some are the company, and the reste are mine).

At times, my PC is slow, or don't respond.

I have someone that tells me it's because of all my Ribbons are loaded with tools.
Could it be that reason?

I also have to say, I have plenty of modules and lot's of macros in each of the modules.

Am I responsible to slowing down my laptop?

Please respond, and hopefully, letting me know, it's not me indirectly that is causing this

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I would have to say that 34 does sound a tad overkill but I would think that there would be a lot of variability in how 'fast' a ribbon can load.

If your ribbon is completely static then it should load quickly but there are plenty of built-in ribbon functionality that is dynamic (eg varies with the selection). With the addition of many other templates to provide company and personal functionality you are increasing processing demands to some degree. If you have a lot of Get commands in your ribbon code then each one will be needing to RUN code to work out how to draw the ribbon button. That all takes processing time and potentially could slow down the PC responsiveness. Generally the time to process this is insignificant on modern machines but it isn't zero.

If the PC is fast at some times and slow at others then I would be looking towards other aspects of your machine to see where the processing power is going before digging too deeply into your ribbon code.
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I would have to say that 34 does sound a tad overkill but I would think that there would be a lot of variability in how 'fast' a ribbon can load.

If your ribbon is completely static then it should load quickly but there are plenty of built-in ribbon functionality that is dynamic (eg varies with the selection). With the addition of many other templates to provide company and personal functionality you are increasing processing demands to some degree. If you have a lot of Get commands in your ribbon code then each one will be needing to RUN code to work out how to draw the ribbon button. That all takes processing time and potentially could slow down the PC responsiveness. Generally the time to process this is insignificant on modern machines but it isn't zero.

If the PC is fast at some times and slow at others then I would be looking towards other aspects of your machine to see where the processing power is going before digging too deeply into your ribbon code.

Didn't totally understood everything but I love your last sentence

Believe me, I have very logical reasons to have many tabs in Word. There are 3-4 for all tables, 2-3 for current tables, 2 for layouts paper, 1 for FNR with wildcards, so I don't have to think how to put it, it's already programmed, etc.... Everything to save me time. I'll try with my phone to take a pic of the word screen to give you an idea.

Maybe you have a better solution for me.

Since I'm still on the clock, I have to do it later, but I just wanted to thank you soooooooo much for taking the time to reply to me.

Happy New Years
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If I was wanting to find out if my ribbons were slowing things down, here's what I would do:
  • Time how long it takes for Word to launch with the way it is now.
  • Completely disable the ribbon by temporarily moving Normal.dotm to another folder. Or if you use a different .dotm or .docm file for your ribbon, temporarily move it somewhere Word can't find it. Relaunch Word and time how long this takes.
  • The difference between these 2 times is how long your Ribbon and macros are taking.
  • If it's significant, that's good. You found the problem.
  • From there, I'd disable just the ribbon, then just the macros and continue to narrow down where the delay is coming from.
  • If I found the bulk of the delay is coming from a single macro, I'd look at that to try to optimize it.
  • Another thing to look at is where Normal.dotm is stored. If you are on a network, that could potentially be the culprit if there is lots of traffic and you are on a slow network.
Okay, that's some things to try. Hope something here helps. Please report what you find.
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If I was wanting to find out if my ribbons were slowing things down, here's what I would do:
  • Time how long it takes for Word to launch with the way it is now.
  • Completely disable the ribbon by temporarily moving Normal.dotm to another folder. Or if you use a different .dotm or .docm file for your ribbon, temporarily move it somewhere Word can't find it. Relaunch Word and time how long this takes.
  • The difference between these 2 times is how long your Ribbon and macros are taking.
  • If it's significant, that's good. You found the problem.
  • From there, I'd disable just the ribbon, then just the macros and continue to narrow down where the delay is coming from.
  • If I found the bulk of the delay is coming from a single macro, I'd look at that to try to optimize it.
  • Another thing to look at is where Normal.dotm is stored. If you are on a network, that could potentially be the culprit if there is lots of traffic and you are on a slow network.
Okay, that's some things to try. Hope something here helps. Please report what you find.
Thanks, good ideas, I'll try that this week if I have time or most definitely this weekend
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