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Old 05-21-2012, 08:04 PM
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I have tried everything to get keyboard shortcuts to my 2007 macros to work in 2010. I'm an advanced and now frustrated user.

Here's what I do:
1. copy the normal.dotm from 2007 to 2010 template directory where i see normal.dotm, back up the 2010 version and replace it with the 2007 version.
Double click and everything works even the keyboard shortcuts.
2. Now I start word and open the normal.dotm template. At the top it shows normal.dotm, not docm
3. keyboard shortcuts and macros still work
I change the default font from times roman to verdana
4. I save the normal.dotm and normalnew.dotm
5. close all


6. double click normalnew and th emacros work, but not the keyboard shortcuts.
Any suggestions?
thx
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Old 05-21-2012, 08:52 PM
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I have tried everything to get keyboard shortcuts to my 2007 macros to work in 2010. I'm an advanced and now frustrated user.

4. I save the normal.dotm and normalnew.dotm
5. close all
6. double click normalnew and th emacros work, but not the keyboard shortcuts.
Any suggestions?
thx
Hal
Where did normalnew.dotm come from? What happened to normal.dotm?

If you still have the normal.dotm with your macros (and shortcuts) and you saved normal.dotm as normalnew.dotm (with your macros and shortcuts) you have duplicate macro names and keyboard shortcuts. It is possible that Word is confused. This should not be happening, the macros and shortcuts in the open document or its attached template should override those of the same name in normal.dotm, but this is all I can think of.

If you still have the normal.dotm with your macros (and shortcuts) and you saved normal.dotm as normalnew.dotm (with your macros and shortcuts) try, with word closed, renaming normal.dotm. Then open Word. With Word open, open normalnew.dotm or create a document based on it (double-click). Are your macros and shortcuts now working?
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H Charles
Thanks for the suggestion.
I renamed normal.dotm to normalxxx.dotm
Then I clicked on the changed modified normal-normal.dotm I created by saving the template from my 2007 normal.dotm with the font changed to Verdana.
I double clicked on normal-normal and everything worked - keyboard macro shortcuts and macros.
I exited.
I double clicked again and this time it had been automatically saved and the keyboard shortcuts didn't work ( i could see it saved it again by the fact it showed up at the top of the date modified list). Any suggestions? Perhaps I can make it read only.
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Old 05-22-2012, 05:49 AM
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Hi
Further explorations:
If i run the normal-normal it works fine.
I can open a new doc by double clicking on it. I can copy contents of an old doc into it and save with new name and ok.
If i open an old docx, when it closes it creates a new normal.dotm
Then when I double click normal-normal, nothing works until i delete the normal.dotm.
Again , if i rename the normal-normal to normal.dotm, nothing works
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You can only use one normal.dotm at a time.

There is a difference between saving a file under a different name (Save As) which keeps the old file under the old name, an renaming a file which results in only one file with the new name.

I still don't understand what you are doing. Could you post a copy of your files: The normal.dotm which came from Word 2007 and had your shortcuts,
The normalxxx.dotm and normal-normal.dotm

You'll need to put them in a zip file (compressed folder) to upload them.

I'll take a look at them; no promises that I will be able to figure it out. Right now I feel like we are two blind men trying to describe the elephant.
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When you create a new document, you should be getting the same result as double-clicking on normal.dotm, your keyboard shortcuts should be available in the new document.

When you rename normal.dotm from Windows with Word closed and then open Word by any means, it will create a new (default) normal.dotm which you will see when you close Word.
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Old 05-22-2012, 06:56 AM
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By the way, copying normal.dotm from Word 2007 for direct use in Word 2010 is not recommended. You could rename it normal2007.dotm and put it in your Word Startup Folder. This would make it a global template and give access to macros and keyboard shortcuts.
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:16 AM
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Hi Charles
Thx again.
Here is a video and the files to try
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Your keyboard shortcuts are all in both the original and the verdana. There are no shortcuts in the normal.dotm. If you put your original in your Word Startup folder you should have access to the shortcuts and macros. Then you can do the font modification in the freshly-generated normal.dotm.

Random thoughts as I look at the files:

You apparently had omnipage, bluetooth, and at least one other Add-In on your old system. XML mods for them are showing up in your old files in the Add-Ins tab. At least one bluetooth Add-In has been known to cause problems with saving changes to normal.dotm.

Your macros appear to have been imported from Word 95, or at least have a lot of WordBasic commands. They show a lot of work and thought, but many of them are basic formatting commands. You can assign keyboard shortcuts to those commands directly without macros. Otherwise, you should be doing most of your formatting using Styles, not directly. Understanding Styles in Microsoft Word At some point I expect MS will stop supporting WordBasic commands in Word, but perhaps not. If they are working for you, great!

I am using a tool developed by Chris Woodman called the Shortcut Organizer to look at the key assignments. Chris Woodman's Keyboard Organizer

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Old 05-22-2012, 08:55 AM
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Just watched your movie. Excellent tool! How did you do it?

Aha! AutoCorrect!

The tt is not a keyboard shortcut! It is an AutoCorrect stored in Normal.dotm. That is different because it does not become active as either a global template nor in an attached template.
See the article "What files do I need to back up?” at:
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/FilesToBackup.htm
It has links to the article "How can I import and export all my AutoCorrect entries, so they can be transferred to another machine?” at:
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...utocorrect.htm. See also AutoCorrect2007.zip The AutoCorrect backup/restore template updated for use with Word 2007 and Word 2010.
and to the article "What do Templates and Add-ins store?” at:
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...latesStore.htm
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if I take the old normal and rename it to normal.dotm and then make it read only. It works fine, but each time asks if i want save changes to the template. I can't make any changes to it. As soon as I do the autocorrect files don't work
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Use the utility to transfer the AutoCorrect files from your old normal.dotm to a new one. You do not want a read-only normal.dotm. I think the problems you are seeing come from using a Word 2007 normal.dotm in Word 2010. This is not a good thing to do.

You can use it, unchanged and even read-only, with the AutoCorrect utility, then move it to your Startup folder from the templates folder, with Word closed. When you restart Word, it will create a new normal.dotm. Your macros and shortcuts will be available from the old file in your Startup folder. Then use the AutoCorrect utility to reinstall your AC entries in your new normal.dotm.
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The AutoCorrects that are in normal.dotm are not in the .acl file. I know they are in normal.dotm because transferring the normal.dotm file transferred the AutoCorrects. It would not do that if they were in the .acl file.
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HI Charles
Ongoing saga.
I did exactly what you said
i tried it. it worked the first time. then the 2nd time the autocorrect didn't work.
Frustrating.
How about a gotomeeting. I have 3 accounts.
BTW, used Camtasia for screen capture. Great program.
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How about a gotomeeting. I have 3 accounts.
BTW, used Camtasia for screen capture. Great program.
Should be done with court tomorrow morning around 10:30 am Central Daylight Time. Please let me know how to connect.
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