CPU maxing out after using predefined Table Styles

[azdolfan]

It's taken me 20 minutes to do a couple of minutes of work because after implementing a predefined Word Table Style, the CPU is maxed out and Windows quits responding. I know it's the Word doc because my Windows tools shows it maxed out and I can shut down every other program and it still happens. Reboot, different day, same problem. I have a decent computer with 2mg RAM and Win7. Never had a problem in Word until I implemented this style to my table. Any suggestions? I love the predefined style, but it's getting too frustrating to use. Thanks!

[mike.smith]

Well azdolfan,

maybe what you have done is that you have stuffed your template with lots of elements (probably very large pictures) and CPU just needs to process them.

What is the size of the template? Can you post it so we can have a look?

I hope it helps

Mike

[azdolfan]

Hi Mike!

Thanks for the reply! It doesn't have large pictures, but has tons of little ones as you will see in this doc. I created a "feature/price comparison plan" for my website. The pics are the little checkmarks for each feature the plan has. I saved it as "Single File Web Page", but it happens under other types like .docx. I saved it as Single File Web Page, because my understanding was it saves the graphics as well. But when I copy the code to my website, the pics are not there?!? You have any idea what I'm doing wrong there as well? Anyway, I attached the file in a zip. Thanks so much!

[mike.smith]

Hello azdolfan,

it is a lot of pictures that are unecessary too big. So I propose you to save your picture in .png format and repaste them there. Your document had 1,4 MB, when I just repasted two rows with "my" png picture it was already 1,2 MB.

To your second question.
I opened the file in my MS Excel and pictures were there. The problem however is that in your case it is probably the fact that simple html is easier. So try to save your file as htm and upload it online via FTP along with picture(s).

I hope it helps

If not, contact me via my website

Mike

[azdolfan]

Ok, Mike I made your suggested changes. But I used Word's lighten image feature by only 10% and it seemed to make the images bigger. So there are pngs now but the file size is actually bigger now. Well, at least I think they should be pngs. Do you know how to verify? When I right click on them, I don't see a properties selection.

I saved as a regular web file and I'm attaching the image on the website like you suggested. I copy that entire table into a FCKEditor and then I have to replace EVERY image on the site since it's looking for the image on my local drive. FCKEditor doesn't have a find and replace feature. Do you by chance know how to change them locally all at once to point to the web location before I copy it to the FCKEditor? I also thought about getting the html code and copying it to dreamweaver, doing a find and replace, then copy to the FCKEditor into source, but I don't know how to get to the html code of my table. Do you know?

Thanks!

[mike.smith]

Hello azdolfan,

you have to transform your pictures in some kind of graphics program (I used simple paintbrush) to save them as png. Open it, click save as and then in the drop down menu under the field where you enter the name of the file pick png format.

PNG is a format that is used for web sites and therefore should be smaller than the gif or jpg format.

As to your second question.
What I do when I need to mass find and replace is that I copy the code into notepad and do (CTRL + H) find and replace. Notepad retains no formats so there is no problem with spoiling html code.

If you have problems to do it, I can do it for you but you need to send me your html as well as original and desired picture location on your server.

mike

[azdolfan]

Hi Mike -

I did save my pics in Photoshop and saved as png. I would just like to verify the replace pic feature worked and actually is using the pngs now especially since my file size went up. So wondered how you knew I wasn't using png files?! Even tho the file size is bigger, it does seem to not go into the "not responding" mode as much now. So that seemed to help for my main problem.

I use notepad once in a while, but mainly use my Dreamweaver to find and replace, but I don't know how to get to the html code the table is saving in. The only reason I'm getting away with what I'm doing is because I can actually copy the table picture itself in this FCKEditor and the code goes with it. I can get it from the FCKEditor, but wondered how you could see the html code from the Word application. And the FCKEditor will have already changed it for their program so won't be original.

But most importantly, would love to have the images give the web address. Because if I make changes to the Word Doc again, I have to keep doing the find and replace so I was hoping word had a way you could define to web location instead of local so I don't have to keep replacing. Hyperlink allows the web location, but I don't want the pics clickable.

That's why I think there has to be a way for images. You really have helped me here, because it was so slow, I quit working on it because of too much frustration. I'm now getting some things done with it and it up now. I know I went off subject some, but you can't blame me for asking a couple more questions when I got someone that knows something. And, it's really nice to offer to do the replacing for me. But I'm going to hold off on that until I'm sure there's no static change in Word first.

I attached my latest doc if you wanted to see it. Should have pngs, I lighted the pics, and added hyperlinks. You can see how the hyperlinks allowed a web address instead of only local address. Here's it in action on my site....http://www.eanimalclassifieds.com/compare-plans.html As you can see, for everytime I make a change locally, it's going to be a huge pain to keep changing the images. I haven't put up all the images yet because of that. Hyperlink pages aren't done yet either. Might do pop-ups down the road.

It just hit me while I was uploading file. I also saved from single file web page to just web page so I'm sure that affected file size.

[mike.smith]

Hello azdolfan,

well, first of all I am glad that I have helped you with the template problem. However it is interesting that in your case the size went up, when mine went down. Did you actually delete the original picture and then pasted then pasted the png version? And how did I know? Well, the problem is that people do not know png too much so that is just the first question to ask. :-)

As to your other problem.

If you want to see html that MS Word creates you have to save your file with htm extension. Then you have to open file in either Dreamweaver or in notepad, as I do it. The thing is that Word is a visual editor and as far as I know, it does not know how to show html.

Considering your "local" pictures.

Maybe I was not too and I do not know how exactly you work and update your site but.
When you have saved your doc file as htm file, you actually had also a folder created with it. This folder contains all the graphics that you have used and it is relatively linked to the file. That means that if you upload both htm and the folder on your web server (they have to be in the same level) your problem should be solved.

But in general, if you are working a lot with web pages I would strongly suggest you use either DreamWeaver or Microsoft Front Page that comes within Office package. Front Page has the same interface then Word but is better with creating html code and files.

Let me know how it went.

mike

[azdolfan]

Hi Mike -

I didn't delete the old image, I used the "change picture" feature that you get if you highlight image and right click in Word. I assumed since it says change, that it gets rid of the old one. I did find that it was back to it's old self soon after I wrote you as in CPU usage. It seems the longer I have it up and working with it, the more it starts slowing down. Maybe cacheing temp files?!? I don't know, but I'm just dealing with what I got now. It's for the most part done unless I do changes down the road.

I see that there is not way to get to the html from Word like you said. So I did bring it up in Dreamweaver. At first, Dreamweaver was doing what I wanted as I could set the path to the correct image. But when copied into that Editor, it loses a lot of info. When I finally did bring up in Dreamweaver, I noticed that I have about 160 .gifs and 160 .pngs tied into the code so it looks like it doesn't delete and replace with the png. That's probably why it went larger. Stupid Word! I deleted that .gif in that file it makes so it doesn't use both now. But code probably still there.

You suggested to used Dreamweaver or Frontpage. I do use Dreamweaver all the time. I have a bunch of websites. However, this site is all smarty templates where you use this editor. So, I just spent more hours getting no where, when it only took about 8 minutes to just change the path individually in the editor. I can't copy that folder either because once the code in the editor, it's still directed to my local computer name. I would have to change that path as well individually.

I'm done! I so sick of the problems and time I'm taking trying to perfect it in Word and Dreamweaver. But think Word should have that feature in there. It's just easier to change image with the editor tool individually. Like I said took, only about 8 minutes compared to hours and headaches.

I checked out your website real quick. Good Stuff! I also visited a couple of your sponsors in appreciation of your help You specialize in Outlook by chance?

[mike.smith]

Hello azdolfan,

well, that might be the problem, as well. MS Word is sometimes really tricky and can do thinks that you tell it, not what you want it to do.

I have played with your file during the weekend and it also took a lot of CPU power and it was slow. But I still think that the problem is in pictures, because when I tried to delete them or replace them it took too long, unlike with the text.

So my suggestion is this. Try to create your table again, but primarily work in docx file format and only when you will need, then export it in some other format. Also, before you start to insert pictures in the table, save it as png file and then do it. Also, if you need to change the size of the picture, do it in the graphic processor not in MS Word. Word can change the size of the picture, but the size usually remains the same.

Considering your html problem. I would have to see how exactly you work (have an access there) because what you have described suggests that it is exactly the way of page maintenance that I do not like to work with. I am not very familiar with templates etc. since I do not like them due to the fact that your extend of control is limited, as you can see in your case. I like to directly write my html and then paste it into file via FTP protocol.

What we can do is that I can write the html table for you, you just give me codes of colors that you want to use as cell backgrounds. Then you can try to paste it into your template and it actually might work. I will create the table according to the file you have uploaded in this tread. When you will need to alter your image, you can open it in Front Page and via graphic editor change what you need. That should work fine, I used to work like that when I yet worked with FP.

Actually, thaks for checking out the site. I hope that you liked it and you will spread the word about it when you will have a chance. :-)

And considering MS Outlook. I work with it so if I can be in any assistance I will try to help.

mike