Can't get rid of line (stroke) around boxes

[lhulmef]

I'm tempted to just as "am I crazy?!" All I want is a shape with no stroke around it, but I can't get them to disappear. I have boxes. By default they have lines around them. I've clicked "No Line" but nothing changes. If I change the line to the same color as the box, then it "appears" as if there is no line... but it's a lie. Here is a screenshot for example.



The box on the left has "no line" selected... clearly there is a grey stroke around the outside. The dark blue box on top has "no line" selected, but clearly the box also has a grey stroke around it. The light blue box on the right does have a stroke around it - I made the stroke the same color as the box. This is all important because of alignment issues. Stroke changes the size and alignment of a shape.

Ummmm... okay? Help please.