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Old 11-02-2018, 07:31 AM
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Okay, go on with your original codes and symbols for cutting classes like the small red triangles. I will make them see the wisdom of consistency in presenting the am and pm for each case - absent, tardy and cutting classes. You will get perplexed by their formula. Half day absent is .5, whole day absence is 1, while tardy, whether am only, pm only or am and pm is counted as 1. cutting classes has no bearing in the daily total attendance.
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OK, got the triangles working. Now I'm working on what users might put in, even if they get it a bit wrong.
For example, you wanted LLLE scrapped, but this can still be interpreted unambiguosly, so now the code accepts it, but re-writes a 'standardised' version LLEL to the sheet. The same applies to LLTI; it becomes LTIL. There are several more…

This has brought up something else. I'd like to know a bit more about what LE and TI actually are (in the real world), so a bit of narrative on those please.

  • Is LE something that can happen EITHER in the morning OR in the morning on the same day?
  • Can LE happen BOTH in the morning AND the afternoon?
  • If LE happens does it automatically exclude one or more of the other things (L,X,C,TI or anything else) happening on the same morning/afternoon/day? If so, which things?

The same for TI:

  • Is TI something that can happen EITHER in the morning OR in the morning on the same day?
  • Can TI happen BOTH in the morning AND the afternoon?
  • If TI happens does it automatically exclude one or more of the other things (L,X,C,LE or anything else) happening on the same morning/afternoon/day? If so, which things?

Could you give an answer to each/all of the bulleted points please.
I'm sorry to ask you so many questions - I'm just trying to make this as useful and robust as possible.
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:43 PM
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[quote=p45cal;135050]OK, got the triangles working. Now I'm working on what users might put in, even if they get it a bit wrong - The input error could be prevented by a validation list later on when all the codes shall have been finalized. But I guess the list would over populate the cells and might cause the processing to slow down. I don't see anything wrong with the system re-writing the error into its standard code (i.e. from LLLE to LLEL)

  • Is LE something that can happen EITHER in the morning OR in the morning on the same day? - LE refers to a learner who enrol beyond the cut-off date, in this school year, the cut off date is June 4. There is no morning or afternoon LE. A LE learner comes from the same school.
Is TI something that can happen EITHER in the morning OR in the morning on the same day? - TI refers to transfer in learners, those who come from other schools, so there is no morning or afternoon for TI.


The reason for the presence of the LE, TI, DRP, TO in the form is their effect on the total daily attendance. Say on June 4, there were 10 learners but during the month a learner came in, registered as LE on June 8, making the total daily attendance on Jun 8-31 to 11 learners.


I should be the one to apologize for providing piecemeal information that have relevance to the program.
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Old 11-03-2018, 05:23 AM
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I'm afraid there's another glitch of my own making. In order to familiarize the teachers in filling up the form, I copied it with the initial cods and distributed to the teachers to practice on. But when we ran the macro, there's an error message of
'Run-time error 1004, Application-defined or object-defined error'.<If Not Intersect(shp.TopLeftCell, RngToCheck) Is Nothing Then> This was colored yellow. According to my google search, this might be the result of copying without saving the file afterwards. How do I correct the error?
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That's quite unexpected. Could you attach the exact file itself here? If it has sensitive data in, you might be able to upload it to a file sharing site and private-message me here a password.
I'm thinking first along the lines of the code not being in a standard module, but in a sheet's or the workbook's module. The line Set RngToCheck = Range("D13:AB63") has an unqualified reference and it may not be the same as the ActiveSheet of the subsequent line.
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Old 11-03-2018, 06:35 AM
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I'm sorry, I found the culprit and it is the validation list that I placed. it's okay now that I cleared the cells of all validation lists.
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change:
Code:
    If Not Intersect(shp.TopLeftCell, RngToCheck) Is Nothing Then shp.Delete
to:
Code:
  If shp.Type <> msoFormControl Then
    If Not Intersect(shp.TopLeftCell, RngToCheck) Is Nothing Then shp.Delete
  End If
and you can keep your data validation.
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Thank you! Validation list in place again to prevent typo errors.
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Old 11-03-2018, 08:02 AM
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BTW, the teachers are fully supportive of the added (creative) triangles for am, pm and am/pm cutting classes. They clarified that am or pm cutting class is equivalent to .5 or half day absent while am and pm cutting class is 1 day absent in the computation for daily attendance.


I have a attached a list of about 54 codes for every possible student behaviour affecting daily attendance. Please feel free to change or add any for clarity and consistency.


I'm really sorry about the ever changing codes. I deal with numbers daily but I don't know how the teachers keep track of the myriad movements and attendance of their students.
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Old 11-09-2018, 09:32 PM
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I edited formula in the column counting the number of absences to:


=SUM(COUNTIF(A36:AA36,{"*X*","*C*"})*0.5)+SUM(COUN TIF($D36:$AA36,{"X X","XTIX","CTIC","XLEX","CC","CLEC"})*0.5)


While in the rows counting the daily attendance, the kilometer long formula was adited to:

=IF(OR(D$12={"Sat","Sun","NC",""}),"",$C14-SUM(COUNTIF($D$15$D$42,{"*X*","X X","*C*","CC","XTIX","CTIC","XLEX","CLEC"})*0.5 )-SUM(COUNTIF($D$15:$D$42,{"T/O","DRP"}))+SUM(COUNTIF($D$15:$D$42,{"*LE*","*TI*" ,"T/I"})))


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1. Would you be happy with the macro calculating the totals of absences etc. instead of formulae on the sheet?
2. Would it be OK to change any instance of T/O entered by the user to TO? Likewise with T/I being changed to TI?
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1. Would you be happy with the macro calculating the totals of absences etc. instead of formulae on the sheet?
2. Would it be OK to change any instance of T/O entered by the user to TO? Likewise with T/I being changed to TI?

1. A macro calculating the total absences is very much much better than formulae because there is less chance by the user deleting a macro than a formula, even if the formulae is sheet protected. However, would the macro be affected if say on June 12, there was no classes. Under the column of June 12, I merge the cells then overwrite the formula to Independence Day (vertical text). To prevent the macro for triangles activating the shape for cutting classes, I insert a symbol that looks like c to represent the letter c in the word independence. I do the same for no classes with reasons containing letter L, the macro code for tardy.

2. We retain the T/O and T/I because they are codes by order of the department of education. T/O for Transferred Out learners, T/I for Transferred In, DRP for Dropped, and surprise, just straight LE for Late Enrollment.
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See attached. It's work in progress.
On sheet SF 2 JUNE HARD COPY, two buttons in the vicinity of cell AT9.
Update triangles will add triangles
Reset will take them away and show all text so that users can comfortably edit them.
What Update triangles does is:
Takes each row in the range E16:AI66
then takes each cell in that row then
will only look at cells having a diagonal line, then it will set the font colour to white, then, only if the cell does NOT have a formula in it:
it will look at the value in the cell, take out forward slashes, remove all trailing spaces and all but one leading space, convert multiple spaces to a single space and then look up what's left in a dictionary of 100 or so possibilities. That dictionary contains the definitions; things such as Absent AM, Late AM, Cutting AM, Absent PM, Late PM, Cutting PM, which will be TRUE if they apply. There's also a column (rightmost) containing a standardised version of the string in the cell which will replace what's in the cell if it's different from that standard version. Having found the entry in the dictionary, it then goes about adding coloured triangles, red for cutting classes and blue for lateness. If there are both in one morning or one afternoon, the cutting classes triangle is halved in size and placed on top of the late triangle. Then if there are any absences (Xs) any X in the cell's text is made visible again, made super- or sub-script to place it comfortably in the cell. If the dictionary lookup doesn't find anything, that cell is coloured yellow (so that you can experiment and find combinations which should be found in the dictionary - tell me what they are and I'll add them).
When each row has been processed, cells in columns AK and AL are updated.


Try it.
I will speed it up later.



You can get an idea of what's in the dictionary by running the macro PrintTable, which will add a new sheet. Look-up values are in the left column.


The general protocol for entering text in the cells is that a space separates am from pm data, as does TI and LE which replace the space (because TI and LE don't have a morning/afternoon attribute). Otherwise the order in which L, C and X appear shouldn't matter. Where you have the likes of LL, it's assumed, because you can't be late twice in the morning, that one L is for the morning, and the other for the afternoon. The same applies to XX etc.
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Big thanks for this cal, but the file is protected.


Got it. I'll get back to you soonest.
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This is brilliant Cal, impressive. It is a far cry from the usual method of shading the shapes with crayons and calculating the daily learners movement with a calculator. My teacher friends will feel they have travelled to the moon and back once they got the hang of preparing their monthly reports through this automated system. I'v tried all the possible scenarios and I think everything is covered by the dictionary. The built in auto correction of any possible erroneous entry is what makes the system more amazing. Thank you.


A bit of correction in the formulae in AK and AL. Each instance of tardy is counted as 1 not .5, so AM tardy is 1, PM tardy is 1, AM and PM tardy is 2, while cutting class is counted as .5 like absences, so AM cutting class is .5, PM is .5, AM and PM is 1. cutting class is added to absences in AK. I'm sorry about this.
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