Your new code is very interesting, but I want to test (and possibly use) it on a single page. Could you please modify it? I was only indirectly interested in the Separator vertical position. My aim is a simple macro to establish the VerticalPosition of the first line of the the first footnote on the page. My ultimate aim is to esablish the size of the gap between the last line of text and the first line of the first footnote. The latter varies: it may be a normal first line, the first line of a continuation, a first line with hyphenation, etc.