Thanks but I got it figured out. You can't set those via VBA, and it turned out I just need to update the Normal style settings in the new document. And yes, it does all have to be done via VBA as it is part of a document assembly software system and I'm needing to write a workaround for a bug MSFT introduced in their Aug build that is causing InsertFile to fail to insert documents that has been working on a library of templates that has worked for about 20 years now. So this is for a VBA repair tool to rebuild the documents using copy/paste vs InsertFile. Long story....