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Old 01-10-2017, 10:41 AM
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Quick question. Am I able to buy MS Office 2010 Oem from eBay?

The EULA confuses me.

E.g. is it okay to buy this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Microsoft-...e/252717495855

Not asking will it work (I know it'll prob work fine), but just wanna know is it against MS rules?

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Old 01-10-2017, 11:53 AM
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There is no such thing as 'MS Office 2010 Oem' and that is not what the seller is advertising. What is being advertised is Product Keys for Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2010. Whether the sale is legitimate we cannot say, but the price seems very low for such a product. Caveat Emptor!
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There is no such thing as 'MS Office 2010 Oem'
But there is actually. It refers to the Office that manufacturers install on their machines before selling.

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What is being advertised is Product Keys for Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2010.
The seller's mentioning of "comes from a decommisioned pc, never been activated office key", is an indication that it's an OEM version.
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Old 01-11-2017, 01:19 AM
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But there is actually. It refers to the Office that manufacturers install on their machines before selling.
You're confusing Windows OEM installations with the 'Office 2010' Starter edition that was supplied free of charge on some PCs. There is no such thing as an OEM edition of Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2010.
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The seller's mentioning of "comes from a decommisioned pc, never been activated office key", is an indication that it's an OEM version.
No, all it indicates (at best) is that the Product Key has never been used. The seller's claim that it "comes from a decommisioned pc, never been activated office key" is unmitigated nonsense. Unused Office Product Keys cannot come from a decommisioned pc - only used ones can. Otherwise, how can the seller claim it was 'on' the PC? The Office Product Key being sold was either: (a) never 'on' the PC in the first place (i.e, the seller bought some PCs and some unused Office Product Keys); or (b) was activated, since those are the only Office Product Keys that can come from decommissioned PCs.

But let's suppose you were right about there being an OEM licence for Office. OEM licences from Microsoft are valid only for the hardware with which the software was supplied. Thus you could not legitimately install an OEM edition of Office on anything other than the original hardware - be it surplus, decommissioned, or anything else you care to think of.
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:30 AM
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Alright cheers.

And how about all the other people on eBay selling even later Office version, such as 2013 and 2016 for similar low prices?

How can I find out if they're legit or not? E.g.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Microsoft-...-/282322324904
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And how about all the other people on eBay selling even later Office version, such as 2013 and 2016 for similar low prices?

How can I find out if they're legit or not?
As always, it's a case of caveat emptor. There is nothing wrong with people selling off the Product Keys (and even the installation media) for applications they no longer need. Licenses are generally transferrable. What you may find, however, is that the Product Key has been used on so many different pieces of hardware that you'll now be required to activate it by telephone. Doubtless there are some dishonest people out there, too, who will try to sell the same Product Kes to multiple unsuspecting buyers.
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Okay, I think I'm set on going for Office 2013. After reading reviews comparing different Office versions, it seems 2013 hits the right notes. E.g. love the fact that MS Word natively supports PDF files as well.

So, searching online (eBay again), I came across this ad:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OFFICE-PRO...-/222382598145

In it, the seller states:

"YOU WILL GET A BROKEN MOTHERBOARD THAT COMES WITH THE OEM KEY AS REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH eBAY POLICY."

Would I be foolish to go ahead with the purchase?
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With Office 2013 OEM, the 'owner' cannot transfer the software to another computer or user. It can only be transferred to a third party with the computer it was originally installed on. A broken motherboard from another computer does not qualify and, even if it did, you could not then install it on another computer.
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With Office 2013 OEM, the 'owner' cannot transfer the software to another computer or user. It can only be transferred to a third party with the computer it was originally installed on. A broken motherboard from another computer does not qualify and, even if it did, you could not then install it on another computer.
But doesn't OEM simply refer to the fact that the system seller installed Office for the buyer pre-purchase?

I've even seen people on official Microsoft forums discussing Office OEM.
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But doesn't OEM simply refer to the fact that the system seller installed Office for the buyer pre-purchase?

I've even seen people on official Microsoft forums discussing Office OEM.
It means nothing of the kind. As I have already told you, an OEM license can never be transferred to a different computer. How many times do you expect me to tell you this?????

The reference to a 'broken motherboard, in this context demonstrates that the seller is either clueless or dishonest. An OEM edition can only be used on the hardware it was sold with. If the hardware dies, tough, you don't have any right to transfer the licence to a different PC - all you can do is repair the original one or buy a new one with a new licence. End of discussion.
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It means nothing of the kind. As I have already told you, an OEM license can never be transferred to a different computer. How many times do you expect me to tell you this?????
Think of it from my perspective. I have seen many other people saying the opposite. And I'm not just talking about eBay sellers or forum members.

I am not saying you're wrong, I'm just in two minds. Ultimately, the only way that I'd ever be sure about this, is hearing it from the horse's mouth.
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Okay, I've checked this out from MS directly.

Macropod, it seems you are mistaken. There actually IS such a thing as MS Office OEM. It's on Microsoft's own site, Microsoft's own words - in one of their PDFs.

Which means all the people on eBay claiming they're selling Office OEM does not necessarily mean they're wrong.

Anyway, the point is, I don't know about the legality of re-selling Office OEM, but at the very least, we now know it does exist.
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Okay, I'm still stumped on the issue of Office OEM.

Does anyone here know the legality of buying an Office OEM license from eBay?

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Bump.

Does anyone have an idea about this? Basically, is Office OEM legal to buy from eBay?

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You cannot use OEM software of any sort on anything other than the hardware it was sold with. Resellers who purport to sell such versions with broken motherboards etc. so the software can be used on other hardware are simply deceiving the buyers into believing they'll have a valid licence for that other hardware; they wont. Period.

So, yes, it's legal to buy and sell OEM software; you just can't legally use it on a different computer.

As I've told you this repeatedly but you seem uninterested in anything other than a reply that confirms you can do as you please, I'm closing this thread.
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